1 00:00:24,970 --> 00:00:20,170 welcome to shattered reality with your 2 00:00:27,999 --> 00:00:24,980 hosts Kate Valentine and furs prepare to 3 00:00:34,900 --> 00:00:28,009 head of paradigms shifted in the truths 4 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:34,910 questioned and now shattered reality hi 5 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:37,430 everyone welcome to another podcast of 6 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:40,399 shattered reality we are here with you 7 00:00:46,209 --> 00:00:42,770 again on Kate Valentine and this is 8 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:46,219 faroush a-- hi and today we are most 9 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:49,100 honored to have as our guest mr. Albert 10 00:00:58,419 --> 00:00:54,890 Rosales a true true hero of ufology the 11 00:01:01,930 --> 00:00:58,429 man has amassed an incredible monumental 12 00:01:04,049 --> 00:01:01,940 amount of work on humanoids not only is 13 00:01:07,420 --> 00:01:04,059 a lot of work but it's entirely 14 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:07,430 fascinating and very essential to a good 15 00:01:14,260 --> 00:01:11,329 study of ufology indeed and you know I 16 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:14,270 just want to speak about his work a 17 00:01:19,690 --> 00:01:16,850 moment before we introduced him and how 18 00:01:23,770 --> 00:01:19,700 incredibly impressed I am by his 19 00:01:26,590 --> 00:01:23,780 dedication and even if a person should 20 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:26,600 listen to this podcast and be a total 21 00:01:32,380 --> 00:01:29,600 debunker you still cannot discount 22 00:01:35,230 --> 00:01:32,390 Albert's work and the reason for this is 23 00:01:38,580 --> 00:01:35,240 he may not actually realize it himself 24 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:38,590 but he is a phenomenal anthropologist 25 00:01:43,660 --> 00:01:41,210 even from the viewpoint of a debunker 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:43,670 now Kate and I here we're both 27 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:46,130 experiencers so we're the furthest thing 28 00:01:51,819 --> 00:01:48,710 from debunkers we look at things with a 29 00:01:54,340 --> 00:01:51,829 skeptical eye to a certain extent but 30 00:01:56,740 --> 00:01:54,350 even if a person were debunker they 31 00:01:59,700 --> 00:01:56,750 would have to acknowledge that mr. 32 00:02:03,429 --> 00:01:59,710 Albert Rosales is a premier 33 00:02:07,389 --> 00:02:03,439 anthropologist similar to our d6 killer 34 00:02:10,270 --> 00:02:07,399 Clark who does the star people research 35 00:02:14,530 --> 00:02:10,280 and he has amassed tell me if this is 36 00:02:18,190 --> 00:02:14,540 right about 17,000 reports of humanoids 37 00:02:19,050 --> 00:02:18,200 so please welcome with me mr. Albert 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:19,060 Rosales 39 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:28,090 hi Albert hi hi I'm honored to be in the 40 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:30,360 show here with you guys today and 41 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:33,310 hopefully I'll be interesting guests I 42 00:02:38,190 --> 00:02:35,320 don't do too many of these but well 43 00:02:40,260 --> 00:02:38,200 that's right that's exactly why we love 44 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:40,270 having you on because what's the point 45 00:02:45,630 --> 00:02:42,490 of having somebody on for the fifth time 46 00:02:47,490 --> 00:02:45,640 who's going to say the same thing and 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:47,500 also really your work should be 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:49,690 recognized you should you should be on a 49 00:02:55,860 --> 00:02:52,810 lot of these shows and podcasts and so 50 00:02:58,410 --> 00:02:55,870 on and conferences but you know to get 51 00:03:02,040 --> 00:02:58,420 right down to it how did you ever get 52 00:03:06,770 --> 00:03:02,050 started down this path Albert well like 53 00:03:10,820 --> 00:03:06,780 you and MKT I am an experience in myself 54 00:03:13,470 --> 00:03:10,830 as a young young man I had several and 55 00:03:17,310 --> 00:03:13,480 experiences and encounters with strange 56 00:03:19,790 --> 00:03:17,320 beings with a I called humanoids or 57 00:03:24,180 --> 00:03:19,800 entities whatever you want to call him 58 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:24,190 he started collecting this type of 59 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:28,480 reports I would say in the 1990s early 60 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:31,930 1990s now I already have over 17,000 61 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:35,610 cases taken from sources worldwide 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:39,310 researchers from as far as Ukraine 63 00:03:46,430 --> 00:03:43,090 Australia New Zealand Poland all over 64 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:46,440 the world South America many places that 65 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:48,760 the research there is that not 66 00:03:55,380 --> 00:03:53,200 well-known I have translated hundreds of 67 00:03:58,650 --> 00:03:55,390 cases from different languages and 68 00:04:04,350 --> 00:03:58,660 they're all in my oh my in my files 69 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:04,360 which I everyone can see at the UFO 70 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:06,910 lymphocyte and a wall completely not to 71 00:04:14,420 --> 00:04:10,750 browse through them and I'm always ready 72 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:14,430 to receive new information from 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:16,870 experiences like yourself experiences 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:19,090 that I haven't you know had encounters 75 00:04:26,130 --> 00:04:22,690 and I've seen strange entities and I get 76 00:04:29,219 --> 00:04:26,140 emails almost daily so this is really a 77 00:04:32,130 --> 00:04:29,229 worldwide phenomenon it seems so yeah it 78 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:32,140 goes through and not just in recent days 79 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:32,830 but 80 00:04:44,190 --> 00:04:36,820 throughout history as well I have cases 81 00:04:46,740 --> 00:04:44,200 dating back from 4000 BC oh I have you 82 00:04:49,260 --> 00:04:46,750 know I you mentioned our d6 killer and I 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:49,270 did I was in contact with our recently 84 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:52,210 and I have her latest work which is 85 00:04:59,640 --> 00:04:56,560 excellent and she covered location which 86 00:05:02,340 --> 00:04:59,650 has haven't been covered before and then 87 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,350 the very little information is available 88 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:04,960 there and I commend her for her work 89 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:09,520 yes me too and anyway the address to 90 00:05:20,610 --> 00:05:13,390 contact Albert is and Garuda spelled G a 91 00:05:22,530 --> 00:05:20,620 ru d as a dog a Garuda 79 at att.net but 92 00:05:31,260 --> 00:05:22,540 that's on his website as well his 93 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:31,270 website WWF Oh info UFO infl comm 94 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:34,090 correct Albert correct and then you go 95 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:37,510 to the subcategory of humanoid and 96 00:05:44,030 --> 00:05:39,730 that's that's where you can find all my 97 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:44,040 files there I know I noticed that you 98 00:05:53,820 --> 00:05:49,060 categorize by letter the different types 99 00:05:55,650 --> 00:05:53,830 of humanoids that you are you are 100 00:05:59,010 --> 00:05:55,660 discussing and you put them into 101 00:06:02,580 --> 00:05:59,020 categories and you also have them listed 102 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:02,590 by the year in which they they came up 103 00:06:06,210 --> 00:06:03,730 so you have them sort of 104 00:06:10,650 --> 00:06:06,220 cross-referenced which is an excellent 105 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:10,660 idea maybe you want to first tell us a 106 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:12,490 little bit about those categories and 107 00:06:17,790 --> 00:06:15,460 then I want to tell you how you know I 108 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:17,800 have divided up certain categories for 109 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:19,780 myself and I want to ask you what you 110 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:23,100 think of that but please first tell us 111 00:06:30,210 --> 00:06:25,870 about the different categories other 112 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:30,220 than the year in which the I use I use 113 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:33,690 the old what they call Allen Hynek 114 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:37,960 category which of course Allen Hynek was 115 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:41,290 a late great researcher astronomer from 116 00:06:46,110 --> 00:06:42,880 the University of Northwestern which 117 00:06:46,770 --> 00:06:46,120 used to he started off with the Air 118 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:46,780 Force with 119 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:49,780 Project Blue Book and many change his 120 00:06:56,700 --> 00:06:52,000 mind about the the phenomenon and became 121 00:07:00,510 --> 00:06:56,710 a fantastic researcher but but anyway he 122 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:00,520 yeah and the cd3 category which is its 123 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:03,840 Close Encounters of the Third Kind their 124 00:07:11,610 --> 00:07:07,810 subcategory and the and concede threes 125 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:11,620 we got category a which is uh when you 126 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:14,470 my know it is seen on board or on a a 127 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:17,500 UFO any type of on an unidentified 128 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:20,410 flying up it B is when a human or 129 00:07:26,730 --> 00:07:23,050 humanoid entities are seen coming in and 130 00:07:30,510 --> 00:07:26,740 out of a UFO when it's on the ground see 131 00:07:33,260 --> 00:07:30,520 is when there's a UFO on the ground and 132 00:07:35,370 --> 00:07:33,270 entities are singing nearby 133 00:07:39,750 --> 00:07:35,380 unnecessarily thing going in and out of 134 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:39,760 the object then you got B which is let's 135 00:07:47,580 --> 00:07:43,360 say there's been a a number of sightings 136 00:07:51,870 --> 00:07:47,590 in uh at a location and some an entity 137 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:51,880 seen alone in the field or in whatever 138 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:54,370 might be seen that but not accompanied 139 00:08:01,080 --> 00:07:58,240 by a knob here or a year for no B P and 140 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:01,090 then you have a category E which is I 141 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:04,330 said a most common nowadays when these 142 00:08:10,860 --> 00:08:06,850 young people or the witness encounters 143 00:08:13,590 --> 00:08:10,870 on an entity alone or maybe more than 144 00:08:18,029 --> 00:08:13,600 one entity either in the bedroom in the 145 00:08:20,010 --> 00:08:18,039 house in the field on the roadway any 146 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:20,020 type of entity and then you have after 147 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:23,410 that I have category F which is more 148 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:25,150 like a psychic connection maybe 149 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:27,370 telepathic communication with between 150 00:08:32,570 --> 00:08:30,550 the the witness and the object man 151 00:08:36,510 --> 00:08:32,580 that's not necessarily been an entity 152 00:08:38,839 --> 00:08:36,520 then you have category G which is also 153 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:38,849 very common now as the abduction 154 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:44,130 scenario or contact scenario I added a 155 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:47,770 territory H which is supposedly a crash 156 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:50,800 or retrieval of an object or an entity 157 00:08:58,380 --> 00:08:55,290 by either government or other sources 158 00:09:00,780 --> 00:08:58,390 then I there's another category which is 159 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:00,790 I called carefully act 160 00:09:08,580 --> 00:09:05,050 which is one the incident is so strange 161 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:08,590 and so uncommon that doesn't really fit 162 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:11,200 in TV land to the other territory so I I 163 00:09:17,190 --> 00:09:15,040 just made up not X well X is really is 164 00:09:19,650 --> 00:09:17,200 really a fascinating category and I've 165 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:19,660 I've read through a lot of the X's I 166 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:23,110 wish that I had read through all 17,000 167 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:24,550 but I think it would take me a very long 168 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:27,610 time but I have read through quite a few 169 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:30,820 of them and you know you're being an 170 00:09:36,630 --> 00:09:33,040 experience there are both of us being 171 00:09:38,580 --> 00:09:36,640 experiencers I have a slightly different 172 00:09:42,810 --> 00:09:38,590 breakdown just for myself and let me 173 00:09:48,180 --> 00:09:42,820 know what you think of this okay I sort 174 00:09:53,730 --> 00:09:48,190 of categorize it into three parts one 175 00:09:56,790 --> 00:09:53,740 part being a something that is very much 176 00:10:01,230 --> 00:09:56,800 flesh and blood where we're not exactly 177 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:01,240 sure whether it is in fact an entity or 178 00:10:10,770 --> 00:10:07,510 a human being who is like a dwarf or in 179 00:10:13,950 --> 00:10:10,780 some way not the average looking person 180 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:13,960 you know like has a disability perhaps 181 00:10:18,030 --> 00:10:15,760 and I'm not talking about somebody who 182 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:18,040 limps I mean I'm talking about a major 183 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:20,790 difference yeah whether the right folks 184 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:25,810 might be you know perhaps a hybrid I 185 00:10:32,810 --> 00:10:29,050 find that to be incredibly interesting 186 00:10:35,490 --> 00:10:32,820 and then the there is a category that I 187 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:35,500 understand that you've had an experience 188 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:38,170 of like something occurring in the 189 00:10:42,690 --> 00:10:38,940 bedroom 190 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:42,700 where you're not sure if it's if it's a 191 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:45,010 physical manifestation or almost like a 192 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:47,530 spiritual manifestation in other words 193 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:48,910 something that you wonder if you could 194 00:10:53,010 --> 00:10:50,830 put your hand through but it's still 195 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:53,020 there and then the category in the 196 00:10:58,920 --> 00:10:55,120 middle that seems quite flesh and blood 197 00:11:00,780 --> 00:10:58,930 but really nothing human well you're 198 00:11:05,940 --> 00:11:00,790 right I especially about that hybrid 199 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:05,950 type of entity which you it looks like a 200 00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:08,880 human but it's not exactly there's some 201 00:11:14,190 --> 00:11:11,950 subtle differences maybe in the eyes or 202 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:14,200 and in 203 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:16,390 coloring there and you know I do believe 204 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:20,590 that their their hybrid type entities 205 00:11:29,100 --> 00:11:24,880 around a friend of mine that had been 206 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:29,110 abducted at one time claimed that that 207 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:33,060 there were indeed quite a few I guess 208 00:11:39,150 --> 00:11:36,250 ETS maybe not but certainly humanoids 209 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:39,160 among us and that she could detect them 210 00:11:43,950 --> 00:11:41,410 because there were as she said very 211 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:43,960 subtle differences but in your 212 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:48,520 experiences that you mentioned did any 213 00:11:54,030 --> 00:11:51,220 of these tend to push you down this path 214 00:12:00,480 --> 00:11:54,040 or did you just try to explain them and 215 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:00,490 in so doing start down this path I in 216 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:03,820 the 70s and I was saying that middle 70s 217 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:06,880 our house and the service I was in the 218 00:12:20,130 --> 00:12:13,770 Navy and I recall being at home leave at 219 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:20,140 like a 15 I encountered a group of 220 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:22,450 people or it looked like a family to me 221 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:26,380 that that stopped and they were driving 222 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:28,390 what I remember was a black vehicle 223 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:31,570 maybe I Mercedes and they stopped them 224 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:33,850 on the side I was walking in my house 225 00:12:39,060 --> 00:12:35,890 they stopped the side of the road and 226 00:12:40,050 --> 00:12:39,070 they ask for directions but they didn't 227 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:40,060 think they didn't really pay attention 228 00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:42,670 to I told her they seemed to be staring 229 00:12:47,010 --> 00:12:44,560 at me or looking around and they'll like 230 00:12:49,950 --> 00:12:47,020 wear what I remember there are like 231 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:49,960 blonde the whole family channels can be 232 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:52,120 made him looking but the hair was kind 233 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:55,930 of sparse and they were very pale and 234 00:13:00,750 --> 00:12:57,850 they were tall and they're all in the 235 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:00,760 car and a big thing people I saw later 236 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:05,530 on at a grocery store which I visited 237 00:13:11,780 --> 00:13:08,130 and they were all at the grocery store 238 00:13:15,780 --> 00:13:11,790 and I was their spy sitting there again 239 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:15,790 sounds ha he said I will think there 240 00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:18,880 were maybe some kind of hybrid sounds 241 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:23,020 like what it was experienced by Ingo 242 00:13:26,930 --> 00:13:25,750 Swann and he related that he had such an 243 00:13:31,250 --> 00:13:26,940 experience 244 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:31,260 with a blonde female humanoid in Las 245 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:33,510 Vegas in the book penetration 246 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:36,060 penetration death Road and so that 247 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:38,370 sounds sort of reminiscent and it does 248 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:40,830 sound like that they were some form of 249 00:13:45,230 --> 00:13:43,710 hybrid like maybe with the Nordic type 250 00:13:48,170 --> 00:13:45,240 alien what'd you say 251 00:13:51,380 --> 00:13:48,180 I would I would think so maybe not 252 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:51,390 exactly the Nordic type but the flinging 253 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:55,440 blonde maybe the tall white yes that's 254 00:14:02,000 --> 00:13:58,800 what they look more like to me I in goes 255 00:14:04,070 --> 00:14:02,010 Swan has a vast range not a maybe at one 256 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:04,080 eye I'm not back in the seventies I had 257 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:06,210 no idea Winkle Swan was I know he was 258 00:14:11,330 --> 00:14:08,970 already involved and type of you know 259 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:11,340 paranormal research during that time I 260 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:14,430 remember being a young man at that time 261 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:18,480 I woke up one morning and I had his name 262 00:14:24,020 --> 00:14:21,450 in might like him in my mind 263 00:14:27,710 --> 00:14:24,030 Wingull one and I repeated his name 264 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:27,720 couple times and I was I was maybe 18 or 265 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:29,850 19 I had no idea where he was back then 266 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:32,160 I didn't have a computer to you know to 267 00:14:38,630 --> 00:14:36,060 google his name yeah and later on I I 268 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:38,640 learn who he was but for some reason his 269 00:14:44,570 --> 00:14:40,650 name came to my mind during that time 270 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:44,580 and I had no idea why not I never I 271 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:47,730 never did contact him lived in New York 272 00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:50,850 City and in the West Village and not so 273 00:14:55,190 --> 00:14:53,100 far away from where I was in the East 274 00:14:57,620 --> 00:14:55,200 Village and I believe it or not I knew 275 00:14:59,510 --> 00:14:57,630 many people who knew him both on the 276 00:15:01,640 --> 00:14:59,520 East Coast and the west coast and I 277 00:15:03,410 --> 00:15:01,650 could never make his acquaintance but I 278 00:15:06,020 --> 00:15:03,420 do understand that he was one of the 279 00:15:08,110 --> 00:15:06,030 most powerful psychics out there in fact 280 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:08,120 during the remote viewing program at 281 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:11,760 Stanford Research Institute he was the 282 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:15,150 only remote viewer of many powerful 283 00:15:23,060 --> 00:15:19,710 psychics who could read numbers and that 284 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,070 were hidden from him it's it's very hard 285 00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:25,440 to like read numbers for a remote viewer 286 00:15:30,950 --> 00:15:28,500 this is just by the by but he was able 287 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:30,960 to do so so I wonder if he was 288 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:33,750 projecting his name you know who your 289 00:15:39,170 --> 00:15:36,330 consciousness because I would not 290 00:15:40,759 --> 00:15:39,180 suspect most people of being able to do 291 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:40,769 that but him 292 00:15:45,169 --> 00:15:43,290 maybe so and Ingo Swann is such an 293 00:15:48,319 --> 00:15:45,179 unusual name I mean it's not like I 294 00:15:51,049 --> 00:15:48,329 think yeah it is and not a celebrity at 295 00:15:53,090 --> 00:15:51,059 that time right right Wow I kept saying 296 00:15:56,629 --> 00:15:53,100 to myself Ingo Swann 297 00:15:59,079 --> 00:15:56,639 what is that was that and right before 298 00:16:02,030 --> 00:15:59,089 before I join the Navy and after that I 299 00:16:04,699 --> 00:16:02,040 maybe I heard about him but much later 300 00:16:06,710 --> 00:16:04,709 on but yet it's so I never forget that 301 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:06,720 and it's so impressed you that you 302 00:16:10,819 --> 00:16:08,730 didn't forget it and you know it sounds 303 00:16:12,590 --> 00:16:10,829 like almost a silly dream you wake up 304 00:16:14,329 --> 00:16:12,600 nothing what kind of name was that and 305 00:16:14,869 --> 00:16:14,339 then you'd forget about it but you did 306 00:16:19,609 --> 00:16:14,879 not 307 00:16:21,139 --> 00:16:19,619 so that centrosome was that right around 308 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:21,149 the time that you had these other 309 00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:24,089 encounters we had encounters it 310 00:16:30,139 --> 00:16:27,209 I'm originally from Cuba and when I was 311 00:16:33,009 --> 00:16:30,149 a young man there maybe and six or five 312 00:16:35,889 --> 00:16:33,019 years old I had several encountered with 313 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:35,899 maybe they they fall in the end the 314 00:16:42,199 --> 00:16:40,410 category of maybe ghosts I'm not sure 315 00:16:44,809 --> 00:16:42,209 maybe they're they're they're the same 316 00:16:47,569 --> 00:16:44,819 thing there I'm not sure but I a member 317 00:16:49,699 --> 00:16:47,579 one day maybe I was five or six years 318 00:16:52,309 --> 00:16:49,709 old there was a hallway in my house 319 00:16:54,439 --> 00:16:52,319 where I lived and there was a mirror I 320 00:16:56,590 --> 00:16:54,449 walk by the mirror and I looked at the 321 00:17:00,439 --> 00:16:56,600 mirror and there was a man oh wow 322 00:17:02,389 --> 00:17:00,449 staring at me he looked like a beard and 323 00:17:04,429 --> 00:17:02,399 he looked like your typical you know the 324 00:17:06,379 --> 00:17:04,439 what you see in the movie when you see 325 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:06,389 that all Spanish soldiers at 326 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:08,730 conquistador with a helmet yes helmet 327 00:17:12,289 --> 00:17:11,010 and a beard and he looked he was looked 328 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:12,299 at me grinning at me 329 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:15,270 no score I was frightened now you ran I 330 00:17:20,179 --> 00:17:18,089 told my mom Corps of course that she 331 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:20,189 dismissed what didn't you know when I 332 00:17:24,919 --> 00:17:22,730 what I told her she didn't believe me I 333 00:17:26,419 --> 00:17:24,929 was one of the one of the experiences 334 00:17:30,139 --> 00:17:26,429 that I had I I remember another 335 00:17:31,940 --> 00:17:30,149 experience also it was kind of one of 336 00:17:35,419 --> 00:17:31,950 those when you have one of those lucid 337 00:17:37,220 --> 00:17:35,429 dreams are you very very real but if you 338 00:17:38,690 --> 00:17:37,230 think it's only a dream but I was 339 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:38,700 sitting in the kitchen there were 340 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:41,700 several what I can only describe to your 341 00:17:46,250 --> 00:17:44,880 Oh shows that were beans and I couldn't 342 00:17:49,340 --> 00:17:46,260 see no features because there they were 343 00:17:50,990 --> 00:17:49,350 like white and luminous Wow and they 344 00:17:52,580 --> 00:17:51,000 were like talking to me I know they were 345 00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:52,590 talking to me about something important 346 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:54,630 but I don't know 347 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:56,850 never didn't remember or never did that 348 00:18:00,560 --> 00:17:58,770 recall what they were talking to me 349 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,570 about perhaps think maybe doesn't that's 350 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:02,880 why I don't know but that's one of the 351 00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:05,970 reasons later on in life maybe I became 352 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:08,460 so interested in this subject well I 353 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:10,740 think that's the case with the two of us 354 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:13,410 as well I was going to say perhaps they 355 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:15,510 were speaking to your higher self and 356 00:18:21,010 --> 00:18:18,810 that on some level your soul remembers 357 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:21,020 what they had to say to you but when you 358 00:18:27,140 --> 00:18:24,780 came into the 4d a reality that we 359 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:27,150 experience here on earth that was hidden 360 00:18:31,700 --> 00:18:29,250 from you much like you know possibly 361 00:18:33,290 --> 00:18:31,710 your past lives or you you know your 362 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:33,300 soul group and you know are not 363 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:35,760 communicating with you on the conscious 364 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:41,130 level in 4d also I just want to quickly 365 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:44,490 mention that a lot of us are sort of we 366 00:18:48,740 --> 00:18:46,290 don't talk about these things unless we 367 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:48,750 know someone really well which is 368 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:51,690 another reason that they keep hidden so 369 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:53,910 yours is a wonderful place to have 370 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:55,650 everybody come and recount their 371 00:19:04,940 --> 00:19:01,520 experiences it's a Garuda g AR UDA 79 at 372 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:04,950 att.net you've you're brave guy to put 373 00:19:11,180 --> 00:19:09,090 this all out in public Albert listen I 374 00:19:13,660 --> 00:19:11,190 want everybody to share their 375 00:19:16,550 --> 00:19:13,670 experiences I know that there's been 376 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:16,560 many people maybe perhaps thousands of 377 00:19:19,610 --> 00:19:17,700 people that have gone through their 378 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:19,620 grades without sharing what what had 379 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:22,040 happened to them and I think everything 380 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:24,570 everyone should know once you share 381 00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:27,120 their experiences with others so they 382 00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:29,880 know they're not alone yes it happened 383 00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:31,590 to look to other people and every 384 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:34,440 everything should be known to see what's 385 00:19:39,770 --> 00:19:37,020 really going on about the mirror 386 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:39,780 experience that you had I just want to 387 00:19:44,780 --> 00:19:41,910 share with you that when I was a little 388 00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:44,790 girl I had to spend a lot of time with 389 00:19:49,010 --> 00:19:47,280 my grandmother when my parents were out 390 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:49,020 of out of the house and she lived 391 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:50,250 upstairs from me 392 00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:52,770 and she had a variety of antique mirrors 393 00:19:58,580 --> 00:19:56,340 there and when I was up there alone like 394 00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:58,590 if she was not home for whatever going 395 00:20:04,580 --> 00:20:00,960 out getting groceries or whatever I 396 00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:04,590 would take like towels and cover the 397 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:08,160 mirrors because I felt that I could see 398 00:20:12,260 --> 00:20:08,490 some 399 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,270 then watching me from inside those those 400 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:14,400 antique mirrors and it wasn't until I 401 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:18,720 was an adult and I met some Jewish folks 402 00:20:25,130 --> 00:20:22,010 who told me that when a person dies in a 403 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,140 traditional Jewish household that they 404 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:27,600 cover all the mirrors during the period 405 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:31,290 of mourning and I felt that because it's 406 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:33,720 a very old tradition you know predating 407 00:20:39,770 --> 00:20:36,690 Christianity even that this might be a 408 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:39,780 meaningful a meaningful tradition and 409 00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:42,990 that I somehow intuitively felt the same 410 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:45,679 way what do you think about that Albert 411 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:49,050 well you know mirror the always 412 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:52,170 fascinated me you know it is if you 413 00:20:58,540 --> 00:20:55,530 stare into a mirror it is said that if 414 00:21:03,890 --> 00:20:58,550 you stare long enough you could see 415 00:21:06,049 --> 00:21:03,900 either your future self or other other 416 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:06,059 beings or other events that that's you 417 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:07,860 have to concentrate and stare at it I 418 00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:10,980 try to several times and to be maybe 419 00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:15,120 dark but I'm but but yeah I II I think 420 00:21:21,290 --> 00:21:18,150 nerves are like I don't know maybe 421 00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:21,300 they're gay through through other 422 00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:23,400 dimensions you get I do I do a portal I 423 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:26,660 do believe in other dimension places and 424 00:21:32,810 --> 00:21:30,450 and realms what which I think most most 425 00:21:35,169 --> 00:21:32,820 of the humanoids come from other 426 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:35,179 dimensions which sometimes they're like 427 00:21:41,570 --> 00:21:38,130 they're like you say portals are open 428 00:21:46,940 --> 00:21:41,580 and they briefly come into our reality 429 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:46,950 and that's what happens we see human and 430 00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:49,350 I also believe that all there's also 431 00:21:57,020 --> 00:21:54,600 what you call the UFOs I believe there 432 00:22:00,620 --> 00:21:57,030 is an extract extraterrestrial presence 433 00:22:05,020 --> 00:22:00,630 here and on earth also as do we I 434 00:22:08,930 --> 00:22:05,030 believe can you give us an example of 435 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:08,940 like say one of your favorite things 436 00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:10,770 from the past several months one of your 437 00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:13,380 favorite humanoid sightings from the 438 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:15,120 past several months what you think is 439 00:22:21,489 --> 00:22:17,910 really kind of a almost like an open 440 00:22:30,439 --> 00:22:25,519 internal like I said IIE my recent files 441 00:22:33,889 --> 00:22:30,449 are I'm unable to open my laptop today 442 00:22:41,239 --> 00:22:33,899 for some reason is it my laptop is not 443 00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:41,249 working we have had more glitches while 444 00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:44,159 doing this and it's so unexplained and 445 00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:46,289 we all look at each other and go we've 446 00:22:52,309 --> 00:22:49,679 come to call it the Tesla effect I don't 447 00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:52,319 know I I got up this morning at 4:30 I 448 00:22:57,229 --> 00:22:54,149 go to work early I turn on my computer 449 00:23:02,299 --> 00:22:57,239 is working fine no problem I get back 450 00:23:04,429 --> 00:23:02,309 home today at 2:30 3 o'clock it's not 451 00:23:07,189 --> 00:23:04,439 working and I tried everything that's 452 00:23:09,409 --> 00:23:07,199 not turning on and it's early--you 453 00:23:11,539 --> 00:23:09,419 firmly locked up and then you don't know 454 00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:11,549 how frustrating it is but it is 455 00:23:14,779 --> 00:23:13,319 frustrating because I have a lot of 456 00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:14,789 files there which I haven't backed up 457 00:23:24,349 --> 00:23:21,619 yet I'm hope yeah I'm hoping I could 458 00:23:26,779 --> 00:23:24,359 copy the files if there's something 459 00:23:29,179 --> 00:23:26,789 wrong with it that it's not stable maybe 460 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:29,189 I could save this file hoping we'll see 461 00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:31,529 but I could tell you a report that's 462 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:33,689 always fascinated me oh not a recent 463 00:23:40,699 --> 00:23:36,569 report but it's one that occurred back 464 00:23:42,649 --> 00:23:40,709 in 1973 and remember 73 was a very 465 00:23:45,139 --> 00:23:42,659 important years as far as encounters and 466 00:23:46,819 --> 00:23:45,149 humanoids most all over the world in the 467 00:23:49,399 --> 00:23:46,829 United States thingy but it also in 468 00:23:55,249 --> 00:23:49,409 other parts of the world now this report 469 00:23:59,299 --> 00:23:55,259 occurred in France and the location of 470 00:23:59,809 --> 00:23:59,309 the November 26 1973 around 1:00 in the 471 00:24:03,079 --> 00:23:59,819 morning 472 00:24:06,259 --> 00:24:03,089 a place called Mario's weekly Mario's 473 00:24:10,339 --> 00:24:06,269 ambough baked in the in the north region 474 00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,349 of France and this is a man and a woman 475 00:24:15,529 --> 00:24:12,799 they were parking in a vehicle on a road 476 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:15,539 near near that between those two small 477 00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:19,289 city towns they noticed on a nearby at a 478 00:24:26,779 --> 00:24:23,389 nearby field he a large metallic 479 00:24:29,329 --> 00:24:26,789 spherical hemispherical object about 50 480 00:24:31,789 --> 00:24:29,339 feet wide and the fields covered with 481 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:31,799 snow and the option was there about a 482 00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:34,770 hundred yards away they stare at the 483 00:24:43,340 --> 00:24:39,480 deserted a dark opening appeared and 484 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:43,350 from this opening from the door or the 485 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:47,340 portal six beans came out you know there 486 00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:50,070 were yeah beans their entities three 487 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:52,980 years yeah being done sorry I just 488 00:24:57,769 --> 00:24:55,770 misunderstood actually human oh it's 489 00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:57,779 answer and and there were three 490 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:01,440 different kinds of entities of beans 491 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,090 there is first there were three small 492 00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:05,760 humanoids the the first three was they 493 00:25:11,409 --> 00:25:08,309 had the large head about four feet tall 494 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:11,419 and they have protruding eyes and with 495 00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:15,360 whites and also another narrow mouth and 496 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:17,700 bulky cheeks and their artwork very long 497 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:20,510 and they were dressed in tight-fitting 498 00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:22,470 tight-fitting one-piece 499 00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:25,860 metallic suits and each of those carried 500 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:31,080 a whatever II am a dark box about six 501 00:25:37,789 --> 00:25:35,940 inches and on the side of the Box there 502 00:25:39,889 --> 00:25:37,799 were what appear to be white luminous 503 00:25:44,919 --> 00:25:39,899 screen on the box 504 00:25:48,260 --> 00:25:44,929 these are pre painted for the or slowly 505 00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:48,270 stiffly and fanned around like if they 506 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:50,520 were searching for something and 507 00:25:54,049 --> 00:25:52,230 gradually they approach to the road 508 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:54,059 until they were about fifty view from 509 00:25:59,120 --> 00:25:56,730 the witness and they stood there behind 510 00:26:01,250 --> 00:25:59,130 them near to the object that was on the 511 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:01,260 ground appeared out of the object to 512 00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:04,890 human figures also these were about six 513 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:08,460 and a half feet tall these human figures 514 00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:10,529 were like like complexion and blond 515 00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:13,740 shoulder-length hair there's like porn 516 00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:16,500 or the full nordic type beans and they 517 00:26:24,529 --> 00:26:19,279 were dressing like scuse me like theis 518 00:26:27,049 --> 00:26:24,539 putting metallic suits also and they 519 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:27,059 stood on closest to the object but then 520 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:29,250 this is the weird part closest to me out 521 00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:33,450 the next to the door appeared a a squat 522 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:36,750 figure a very strange version with long 523 00:26:41,950 --> 00:26:40,080 dangling arms and it was apparently 524 00:26:44,830 --> 00:26:41,960 covered with dark fur 525 00:26:48,049 --> 00:26:44,840 according to the witnesses this creature 526 00:26:48,530 --> 00:26:48,059 whatever it was resemble on a bear or 527 00:26:54,290 --> 00:26:48,540 gray 528 00:26:56,210 --> 00:26:54,300 eight Wow yeah yes that's what I'm 529 00:26:58,150 --> 00:26:56,220 saying it appear to be guarding the 530 00:27:00,800 --> 00:26:58,160 entrance of the up - just stood there 531 00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:00,810 after about 10 minutes the small beans 532 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:03,600 begin to approach the car and the woman 533 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:05,730 the young woman began became frightened 534 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:10,250 and jumped out and slamming the door and 535 00:27:18,110 --> 00:27:13,350 ran Bank - ran back to her own vehicle 536 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,120 which is parked nearby when this 537 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:21,360 happened the man saw that the figures 538 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:24,810 are little beans re-entered the optic 539 00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:29,160 first when the animal type indicate went 540 00:27:33,410 --> 00:27:31,830 in followed followed by the two toll 541 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:33,420 humans and then by the three small 542 00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:37,890 humanoids after that you have two worlds 543 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:40,980 up into the air and disappear / - clean 544 00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:44,340 then westwards very high speed later on 545 00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:46,260 there they found strange tracks in the 546 00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:52,500 snow in the morning and and and you know 547 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:55,140 footprints this is a very was 548 00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:56,850 investigated but being french 549 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:00,720 researchers joel Mesnard he's the one 550 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:04,380 that's involved with the French struggle 551 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:07,650 for do follow G uh Lumiere still has new 552 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:09,570 lights in the nights been on for years 553 00:28:15,050 --> 00:28:13,440 and Jan might eat the corn now this this 554 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:15,060 case is I always found it fascinating 555 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:18,290 because different types of NTPC 556 00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:20,970 apparently working together interesting 557 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:23,940 that's who - tall humans long incre 558 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:28,130 blond hair of course a three type 559 00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:31,200 humanoid with a large head and most 560 00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:33,240 interesting that the ape-like creature 561 00:28:40,490 --> 00:28:36,900 yes which apparently you know will you 562 00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:40,500 know accompanying the the other that is 563 00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:41,340 fascinating 564 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:44,310 it reminds me a little bit of the fact 565 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:47,250 that Travis Walton reports in his 566 00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:50,310 abduction scenario that towards the end 567 00:28:55,970 --> 00:28:52,440 he was in an area where there were a 568 00:28:59,480 --> 00:28:55,980 variety of different types of aliens as 569 00:29:02,120 --> 00:28:59,490 well yeah it kind of 570 00:29:05,150 --> 00:29:02,130 makes you think that either the little 571 00:29:10,490 --> 00:29:05,160 guys are like Androids 572 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:10,500 perhaps or perhaps they could be they 573 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:11,970 could it could be like a League of 574 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:15,650 Nations sort of a thing of space a space 575 00:29:22,570 --> 00:29:19,050 League of Nations where there are 576 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:22,580 different civilizations working together 577 00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:24,750 maybe that's what I think there are 578 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:26,520 different types of species and they have 579 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:28,710 their own their own the same objective 580 00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:31,170 here and on earth I mean if you look at 581 00:29:36,530 --> 00:29:33,960 hers we're like in the back waters of 582 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:36,540 the galaxy a little speck of dust in 583 00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:42,570 middle nowhere yeah I mean and now it's 584 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:46,020 just I'm thinking that there's like in 585 00:29:49,610 --> 00:29:47,880 like in science fiction story there 586 00:29:51,650 --> 00:29:49,620 there's got to be thousands of 587 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:51,660 civilizations in our galaxy alone and 588 00:29:57,919 --> 00:29:55,250 they and they must have some kind of 589 00:30:00,860 --> 00:29:57,929 cooperation or Federation and you know 590 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:00,870 which maybe in the future will we will 591 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:04,650 be allowed to join in when we stop being 592 00:30:09,650 --> 00:30:07,890 so mean as human beings we stop we've 593 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:09,660 got destroyed our planet and killing 594 00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:22,170 each other but obviously um you know 595 00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:23,910 when you see all these people and I 596 00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:24,900 asked 597 00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:28,980 we had Denise stoner on and she's had a 598 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:32,040 fortune or misfortune of being abducted 599 00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,250 many many times and actually after she 600 00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:37,440 got over her fear would actually have 601 00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:41,220 conversations with the abductors and I 602 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,380 had asked her if she had any sense of 603 00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:45,600 their history and in other words I'm 604 00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:49,080 sure they evolved from earlier organisms 605 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:52,710 and you know their civilization probably 606 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:54,690 went through several growing stages I 607 00:30:58,850 --> 00:30:56,730 don't think you become an enormous 608 00:31:01,130 --> 00:30:58,860 technology overnight you have to go 609 00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:01,140 through certain phases do you ever get 610 00:31:08,590 --> 00:31:04,470 that sense from the beings that you've 611 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:08,600 had interactions with that perhaps 612 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:11,330 they're trying to help us along a bit 613 00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:13,290 like you know like 614 00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:17,520 Dumbo well I I think that that 615 00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:19,830 throughout our history we've been 616 00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:22,740 influenced by outside forces either 617 00:31:28,910 --> 00:31:26,220 either being humanoids or being from 618 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:28,920 other planets or dimensions but I think 619 00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:32,490 we've written within times helped along 620 00:31:40,510 --> 00:31:37,350 we they have prevented catastrophes and 621 00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:40,520 they I think that we've been we've been 622 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:44,070 at least watched broke for a long time 623 00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:46,290 through all our history if you consider 624 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:47,790 all the accounts of the you know 625 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:49,530 encounters and hiding throughout history 626 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:52,770 over you know strange events even during 627 00:31:58,820 --> 00:31:56,330 the Dark Ages during the platen place 628 00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:58,830 there were reports of you know and 629 00:32:03,050 --> 00:32:01,380 strange encounters uh I don't know maybe 630 00:32:06,740 --> 00:32:03,060 that there there's some time 631 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:06,750 manipulation going out of the human race 632 00:32:10,340 --> 00:32:08,610 maybe there maybe maybe there positive 633 00:32:11,780 --> 00:32:10,350 forces and their negative forces and 634 00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:11,790 maybe there there's some kind of 635 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:14,790 struggle between them where we're stuck 636 00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:17,430 in the middle one of the problems in 637 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:19,500 ufology is that you just never get 638 00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:21,570 enough consistent data to come to any 639 00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:24,780 conclusions but and for example with you 640 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:26,940 you have consistently reported these 641 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:30,330 cases now you have 17,000 that's a lot 642 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:33,030 of data and yet it's this pretty enough 643 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:35,250 where it doesn't lead to any particular 644 00:32:39,020 --> 00:32:38,490 conclusion other that there are you 645 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:39,030 monoids 646 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:42,530 aside from humans on this planet and I 647 00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:45,810 but what but that's quite a conclusion 648 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:47,940 that alone you don't have to explain it 649 00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,170 just that alone is enough i yes i I 650 00:32:57,020 --> 00:32:54,240 don't try to find a solution to the 651 00:32:59,540 --> 00:32:57,030 youthful what quote-unquote problem I 652 00:33:01,580 --> 00:32:59,550 know I don't I gave up doing that a long 653 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:01,590 time ago I the problem with many of 654 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:04,890 these researches and beautiful groups 655 00:33:09,050 --> 00:33:07,290 that they think they're gonna find a 656 00:33:10,670 --> 00:33:09,060 solution they're gonna solve the useful 657 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:10,680 problem but there's no I don't think 658 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:14,190 that's ever going to happen I think all 659 00:33:22,910 --> 00:33:16,530 you can do is collect the data and see 660 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:22,920 and see and report and the the I think 661 00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:25,110 the solution they're the only ones can 662 00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:27,270 they can tell us 663 00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:29,910 really going on Oh what's happening I 664 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:31,470 don't know the government the government 665 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,110 might have more information that we do 666 00:33:39,290 --> 00:33:36,960 but uh another be sure they really know 667 00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:39,300 exactly what's what's going on it's 668 00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:41,780 possible that our human minds can't 669 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:45,000 quite comprehend the entirety of the 670 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:48,570 situation and that it involves things 671 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:51,210 that are beyond our understanding simply 672 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:53,450 because we don't experience them 673 00:33:59,299 --> 00:33:56,970 directly I was wondering what you 674 00:34:03,890 --> 00:33:59,309 thought about the Nephilim you know did 675 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:03,900 do do you have any interest in the the 676 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:06,809 ancient the really ancient aliens and 677 00:34:14,270 --> 00:34:09,590 the Giants that were the Nephilim oh 678 00:34:18,379 --> 00:34:14,280 yeah yeah definitely I think I read I 679 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:18,389 think most of sakurai a-- searching 680 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:22,320 books and like he called e---coli the 681 00:34:29,629 --> 00:34:25,530 Anunnaki and I think then the fillin the 682 00:34:31,129 --> 00:34:29,639 Nephilim were I believe they're me my 683 00:34:36,590 --> 00:34:31,139 opinion maybe there was some kind of 684 00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:36,600 human-alien hybrids that that uh for 685 00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:37,950 some reason they were they were wiped 686 00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:41,399 out by more powerful forces perhaps the 687 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:44,730 the aliens themselves but uh but I 688 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:47,310 believe that like I said throughout our 689 00:34:55,609 --> 00:34:51,030 history we've been we've been interfere 690 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:55,619 with and directed by by other forces you 691 00:35:02,510 --> 00:34:57,570 know beyond our understanding 692 00:35:05,810 --> 00:35:02,520 for most people I believe can you can 693 00:35:10,099 --> 00:35:05,820 you recall any of the other sort of 694 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:10,109 hybrid kind of experiences that you have 695 00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:14,250 recorded there because I had a one 696 00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:16,950 question about something that I 697 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:19,950 encountered in the East Village a couple 698 00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:23,520 of years ago so it just wondering if you 699 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:26,160 have any others on tap there or whether 700 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:27,890 I should go forward and ask you about 701 00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:34,290 one particular experience of mine like I 702 00:35:40,850 --> 00:35:36,990 have so many cases around like I said I 703 00:35:44,690 --> 00:35:40,860 try to a lot of 704 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:44,700 hybrid type cases that I have being like 705 00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:46,410 I said I appear to be human but not 706 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:51,060 completely human and I know some cases 707 00:36:00,140 --> 00:35:56,640 like in them and Mexico lady and her 708 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:00,150 daughter encounter very tall entity at a 709 00:36:05,420 --> 00:36:02,670 supermarket at a market grocery store 710 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:05,430 that appeared a bit of extending they're 711 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:07,410 looking around and very tall wearing a 712 00:36:13,790 --> 00:36:10,890 tight-fitting green collar oh it was 713 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:13,800 blonde and apparently they were their 714 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:17,370 only ones that heard the see him and he 715 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:19,530 just stood there and they try to get the 716 00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:22,170 other people attention and no one really 717 00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:25,500 pay attention to them I sometimes I 718 00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:27,230 think that this entities are able to 719 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:29,430 when they manifest they're able to 720 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:31,260 control their environment around them 721 00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:33,330 and they maybe they choose who who's 722 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:35,520 able to see them or not or how they're 723 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:38,400 seen maybe they're projecting their even 724 00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:41,520 their tall blonde as well as other 725 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:44,190 things my experience about three years 726 00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:47,010 ago on the streets of New York in the 727 00:36:51,620 --> 00:36:48,960 East Village and if you know what the 728 00:36:55,670 --> 00:36:51,630 East Village is like it's filled with 729 00:37:00,410 --> 00:36:55,680 people wearing unusual clothing maybe 730 00:37:02,570 --> 00:37:00,420 with various piercings and tattoos and 731 00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:02,580 so something like that would not be 732 00:37:08,090 --> 00:37:05,790 unusual for me to see okay in fact there 733 00:37:12,380 --> 00:37:08,100 was even a fellow walking around who had 734 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,390 implanted in his forehead horns yes he 735 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:14,160 had horns implanted in his forehead 736 00:37:18,590 --> 00:37:16,530 don't ask why I didn't and I did run 737 00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:18,600 into him in the supermarket but I knew 738 00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:20,550 he was a human being because I knew I 739 00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:24,180 knew about him however well I was on the 740 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:26,820 street a couple of times actually three 741 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:30,690 times this one summer and twice I saw 742 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:34,110 what appeared to be a man and the other 743 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:36,570 time a couple now the man that I saw 744 00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:40,770 twice he was walking with a couple of 745 00:37:47,660 --> 00:37:43,350 other fellows normal college-age maybe a 746 00:37:49,550 --> 00:37:47,670 little bit older young man and he had a 747 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:49,560 head the size of a grapefruit 748 00:37:53,450 --> 00:37:51,690 I don't mean he had a small head Albert 749 00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:53,460 I mean he had a head the size of a 750 00:37:57,740 --> 00:37:54,420 grapefruit 751 00:38:00,410 --> 00:37:57,750 now I mean I was really done struck when 752 00:38:03,170 --> 00:38:00,420 I saw him I stared at him I didn't mean 753 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:03,180 to I looked away thinking my god this 754 00:38:07,099 --> 00:38:05,010 poor guy what's going on with him and 755 00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:07,109 then I look back and and these other 756 00:38:10,819 --> 00:38:09,150 fellows who are with him you know they 757 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:10,829 didn't seem to make notice nor did 758 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,690 anybody on the street seem to notice 759 00:38:17,299 --> 00:38:14,880 that this poor fella had the head the 760 00:38:19,220 --> 00:38:17,309 size of a grapefruit or smaller now I 761 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:19,230 wonder that's what I was getting to I 762 00:38:25,490 --> 00:38:22,190 wondered whether I was just being rude 763 00:38:28,849 --> 00:38:25,500 or whether I was the only one who could 764 00:38:31,849 --> 00:38:28,859 see what he really looked like what no 765 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:31,859 one else no one else seemed to notice no 766 00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:35,130 one else yes yes like I guess like I 767 00:38:40,190 --> 00:38:36,839 mentioned that case in Mexico there that 768 00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:40,200 these people saw this like seven-foot 769 00:38:47,390 --> 00:38:44,640 tall man blond and you mean that not 770 00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:47,400 just typical person you'll see in a 771 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:49,980 Mexican supermarket and these people 772 00:38:54,190 --> 00:38:51,569 that they were trying to get everybody 773 00:38:57,410 --> 00:38:54,200 else attention and they and everybody 774 00:39:00,170 --> 00:38:57,420 ignored them there was a parent that the 775 00:39:01,819 --> 00:39:00,180 only ones who's able to see me while his 776 00:39:03,799 --> 00:39:01,829 friends were talking seemed to be 777 00:39:05,779 --> 00:39:03,809 talking with him and so forth but what I 778 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:05,789 think they couldn't see was that his 779 00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:07,170 head was only the size of a grapefruit 780 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:09,839 and the other people on the street who 781 00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:12,930 were passing him by you know didn't see 782 00:39:18,349 --> 00:39:15,960 that he had this like really peculiar 783 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:18,359 lately small head and you know who knows 784 00:39:22,849 --> 00:39:20,490 I don't know to this day if it was some 785 00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:22,859 form of an unfortunate affliction like a 786 00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:26,430 birth issue that he had but even at that 787 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:28,200 I would think that other people would 788 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,410 have been looking at him strangely 789 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:32,880 because people are just not I mean 790 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:35,250 people try to be kind sometimes but 791 00:39:39,859 --> 00:39:36,720 they're not you know they would have 792 00:39:43,539 --> 00:39:39,869 been just gobsmacked seeing that I'm 793 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:43,549 sure that I mean that's completely 794 00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:46,980 completely unnatural and then maybe they 795 00:39:51,319 --> 00:39:48,420 didn't that they couldn't see what you 796 00:39:53,930 --> 00:39:51,329 were seeing and I saw him more than once 797 00:39:57,140 --> 00:39:53,940 and I also saw that at the same time 798 00:39:58,700 --> 00:39:57,150 frame I saw a couple walking down the 799 00:40:02,359 --> 00:39:58,710 street on 14th Street in the East 800 00:40:06,319 --> 00:40:02,369 Village and they also had peculiarly 801 00:40:07,579 --> 00:40:06,329 small heads and I wondered at the time 802 00:40:10,579 --> 00:40:07,589 perhaps 803 00:40:13,339 --> 00:40:10,589 this was like some form of a group that 804 00:40:14,959 --> 00:40:13,349 had come and you know just were hanging 805 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:14,969 out in the East Village a group of 806 00:40:20,499 --> 00:40:16,890 humanoids or something and then they 807 00:40:22,729 --> 00:40:20,509 disappeared but I guess I don't know 808 00:40:27,979 --> 00:40:22,739 it's hard to find the answer to these 809 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:27,989 things the weird thing is the your I 810 00:40:32,469 --> 00:40:29,249 don't know if you remember back in the 811 00:40:35,150 --> 00:40:32,479 in the 1989 when the yeah and 812 00:40:38,329 --> 00:40:35,160 lawlessness in Russia when the aliens 813 00:40:40,999 --> 00:40:38,339 were there reported some of the first 814 00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:41,009 reports of UFOs landings and sightings 815 00:40:47,059 --> 00:40:44,640 in Russia and 8089 the aliens that were 816 00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,069 reported there according to many 817 00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:49,920 witnesses like in the park a UFO landed 818 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:53,880 and a giant beam came out a creature and 819 00:40:58,429 --> 00:40:56,249 as is hair was small compared to his 820 00:41:02,469 --> 00:40:58,439 body they said it was small and round 821 00:41:08,029 --> 00:41:05,749 yeah they had large buddy bodies whether 822 00:41:09,620 --> 00:41:08,039 heads worked like round and small maybe 823 00:41:14,890 --> 00:41:09,630 like a graceful a little maybe a little 824 00:41:21,799 --> 00:41:20,359 I mean just yeah and I'm sure some of 825 00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:21,809 them weren't they they said that the 826 00:41:27,049 --> 00:41:24,049 heads were like like a like a stump 827 00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:27,059 maybe not completely like a head but 828 00:41:35,779 --> 00:41:33,150 they very small Wow this was an 89 was 829 00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:35,789 that the one where the UFO landed in the 830 00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:39,660 school yard and a park you know in a 831 00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:41,910 park and there were a lot of doing owls 832 00:41:52,219 --> 00:41:49,160 or students that there were reports ever 833 00:41:54,650 --> 00:41:52,229 yes and September there were several 834 00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:54,660 incidents actually all the way covering 835 00:41:59,989 --> 00:41:57,150 from September all the way to December 836 00:42:03,620 --> 00:41:59,999 in that same area and there were like 837 00:42:06,410 --> 00:42:03,630 landings and reports of UFOs and 838 00:42:07,819 --> 00:42:06,420 contacts all the kinds of incidents and 839 00:42:10,339 --> 00:42:07,829 actually the government at that time 840 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:10,349 they had no real effort to cover it up I 841 00:42:15,169 --> 00:42:12,089 believe it was fairly well covered in 842 00:42:19,249 --> 00:42:15,179 the press - it was well the first time 843 00:42:21,499 --> 00:42:19,259 that the Russian newspaper news agency 844 00:42:24,409 --> 00:42:21,509 Tass can I was such a 845 00:42:24,979 --> 00:42:24,419 report which is running to price a lot 846 00:42:27,769 --> 00:42:24,989 of people 847 00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:27,779 I remember they seem very much more open 848 00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:30,329 to it over on on that side of the globe 849 00:42:36,379 --> 00:42:34,169 then we are here in America so much so 850 00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:36,389 that in one of the stands 851 00:42:46,009 --> 00:42:40,529 maybe Kazakhstan what had jika Stan they 852 00:42:49,279 --> 00:42:46,019 have built a UFO landing port and one of 853 00:42:53,539 --> 00:42:49,289 the former presidents of Russia came out 854 00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:53,549 there's a there's a contact II yes yeah 855 00:43:00,370 --> 00:42:57,839 yes he was a former president of a 856 00:43:03,969 --> 00:43:00,380 Russian Republic's 857 00:43:07,669 --> 00:43:03,979 kalmykia we according to him he was 858 00:43:10,789 --> 00:43:07,679 abducted I can in the 90s I believe and 859 00:43:14,059 --> 00:43:10,799 he was contacted and and yeah you know a 860 00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:14,069 lot of people taken surgery over there 861 00:43:22,939 --> 00:43:18,630 he but they consider him I mean a normal 862 00:43:26,809 --> 00:43:22,949 person and a very respected man he even 863 00:43:29,929 --> 00:43:26,819 met the current Russian President Putin 864 00:43:32,589 --> 00:43:29,939 and I saying Putin was a very good but 865 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:32,599 you know he's are apparently he's uh 866 00:43:39,409 --> 00:43:35,369 someone that was taken seriously over 867 00:43:41,569 --> 00:43:39,419 there yes yes and one of the other 868 00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:41,579 fellows who was actually the President 869 00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:44,099 of Russia not the Prime Minister but the 870 00:43:51,969 --> 00:43:48,630 President of Russia he he said that when 871 00:43:56,179 --> 00:43:51,979 he became president they gave him two 872 00:43:58,849 --> 00:43:56,189 briefcases and one briefcase had in it 873 00:44:02,419 --> 00:43:58,859 like secrets of the Cold War you know 874 00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:02,429 about the US and the different thing the 875 00:44:06,289 --> 00:44:04,169 different countries that they felt were 876 00:44:09,709 --> 00:44:06,299 kind of enemy countries and the other 877 00:44:13,969 --> 00:44:09,719 briefcase can can had an inside of it 878 00:44:19,999 --> 00:44:13,979 all the UFO reports that they deemed to 879 00:44:23,659 --> 00:44:20,009 be real so I yeah there's there's a 880 00:44:26,929 --> 00:44:23,669 report about the secret KGB files 881 00:44:30,859 --> 00:44:26,939 beginning with UFOs and and encounters 882 00:44:33,849 --> 00:44:30,869 yes one of the funniest stories I recall 883 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,859 is the late Budd Hopkins was on once and 884 00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:35,520 when he 885 00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:37,380 was living I guess and Chelsea in New 886 00:44:42,860 --> 00:44:40,110 York of course the street from him there 887 00:44:45,110 --> 00:44:42,870 was a sort of a liquor store I guess 888 00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:45,120 like where he would buy wine and so on 889 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:47,310 and he became friendly with the man be 890 00:44:54,140 --> 00:44:51,210 who's you know the owner and the guy 891 00:44:55,730 --> 00:44:54,150 eventually told him this story which he 892 00:44:57,830 --> 00:44:55,740 said listen even though I have this 893 00:45:01,160 --> 00:44:57,840 establishment I tend I'm just not a 894 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:01,170 drinker and so I said everyone thinks I 895 00:45:07,550 --> 00:45:04,170 was when I told them this story he drove 896 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:07,560 home from New York City to New Jersey 897 00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:10,410 one night and I think it was over in the 898 00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:13,200 Clifton area and as he's coming up along 899 00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:16,470 the Palisades this saucer type this egg 900 00:45:21,830 --> 00:45:19,020 shy egg-shaped saucer lands in front of 901 00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:21,840 him the man was so amazed he stopped it 902 00:45:27,730 --> 00:45:24,480 was one of the parks along the Hudson I 903 00:45:30,530 --> 00:45:27,740 forget which one anyway beings come out 904 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:30,540 they start thinking up some dirt and 905 00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,210 they look at him wave and get back in 906 00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:35,760 the craft and leave and the guy was 907 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:38,040 absolutely flummoxed he goes it's 2:00 908 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:40,650 in the morning as it turned out a 909 00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:42,450 doorman of one of the high-rises 910 00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:44,820 actually saw the same thing too so there 911 00:45:49,850 --> 00:45:47,460 were two witnesses to this event but it 912 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:49,860 took him years to finally tell foot 913 00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,560 Hopkins about it but that is so bizarre 914 00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:54,720 I mean you know in the middle of a 915 00:45:59,720 --> 00:45:57,540 metropolitan area and one of the few 916 00:46:05,690 --> 00:45:59,730 parks that we have here this thing lands 917 00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:05,700 digs dirt it goes back I think I heard 918 00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:10,020 of that report yeah yeah exactly I 919 00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:15,420 couldn't recall it all it's almost 920 00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:24,270 laughable really the guy was not like a 921 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:29,880 joker a lot of it's true a lot of the 922 00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:35,070 encounters completely I mean you say 923 00:46:39,350 --> 00:46:36,900 that laughable they're they're strange 924 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:39,360 they're not going either they're they're 925 00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:42,720 like like like a lot of people are left 926 00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:46,020 you know completely confused I don't 927 00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:47,460 know if there's yeah I don't know if 928 00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:49,500 there's something 929 00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:52,710 that as part of a planner I'm not sure 930 00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,060 but a lot of the encounters are 931 00:47:01,280 --> 00:46:56,880 completely yeah I mean that'll make any 932 00:47:02,570 --> 00:47:01,290 sense bottom line well and then everyone 933 00:47:04,370 --> 00:47:02,580 tells you well yeah that's because 934 00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:04,380 they're not human and it doesn't make 935 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:06,180 sense to us but it makes sense to him 936 00:47:19,610 --> 00:47:16,410 but the guy from SETI says Shaw stack 937 00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:19,620 yeah contract yep szostak yeah you know 938 00:47:24,830 --> 00:47:21,660 I mean here they are looking for aliens 939 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:24,840 but if you mention UFOs they tell you no 940 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:26,850 they can't exist so I mean it's sort of 941 00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:28,650 a little bit hypocritical but anyway 942 00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:31,380 said he does not recognize UFOs but they 943 00:47:36,650 --> 00:47:34,020 want to send they want to send beams now 944 00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:36,660 not only listen to beams from from space 945 00:47:42,830 --> 00:47:39,960 but they want to send a message to space 946 00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:42,840 and there's a big disagreement on 947 00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:44,280 whether or not they should do that 948 00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:46,980 because there are a number of people who 949 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:49,740 believe that it's very highly dangerous 950 00:47:56,750 --> 00:47:53,370 and one of those people is of course the 951 00:48:00,290 --> 00:47:56,760 the physicist and you know major genius 952 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:00,300 Stephen Hawking says Norman look what 953 00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:02,130 happened to the Native Americans the 954 00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:04,440 first people in this country and in 955 00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:07,260 Canada and Latin America a lot of them 956 00:48:12,110 --> 00:48:09,480 got massacred when they were introduced 957 00:48:14,510 --> 00:48:12,120 to it's a civilization whose technology 958 00:48:19,820 --> 00:48:14,520 was a bit advanced and they only 959 00:48:21,830 --> 00:48:19,830 slightly advanced exactly Incas and the 960 00:48:25,490 --> 00:48:21,840 Aztecs in South America are wiped out by 961 00:48:28,190 --> 00:48:25,500 a handful of Spanish yeah and the 962 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:28,200 conquistadors they were not so far 963 00:48:32,620 --> 00:48:30,330 advanced they were a hundred years 964 00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:32,630 advanced they had firearms or whatever 965 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:35,430 other than that the Mayas had a great 966 00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:37,650 civilization they weren't back in the 967 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:40,110 Dark Ages they had their you know quite 968 00:48:44,450 --> 00:48:42,510 a vibrant the Aztecs and the Mayas had 969 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:44,460 quite a vibrant sibling the civilization 970 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,490 and yet they were they were wiped out by 971 00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:50,000 just by a slight technological 972 00:48:57,770 --> 00:48:53,700 advancement so right so Stephen Hawking 973 00:49:02,330 --> 00:48:57,780 is says that we are very rational to 974 00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:02,340 believe that there are beings in another 975 00:49:08,089 --> 00:49:03,089 world 976 00:49:10,670 --> 00:49:08,099 but it is a very bad idea for us to say 977 00:49:13,549 --> 00:49:10,680 howdy got a contract try to contact them 978 00:49:15,859 --> 00:49:13,559 by by saying hey we're over here we're 979 00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:15,869 still sort of dumb and a wonderful a 980 00:49:23,029 --> 00:49:17,940 wonderful woman I know who is a 981 00:49:25,930 --> 00:49:23,039 veterinarian said to me that that you 982 00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:25,940 know if you look at most of the higher 983 00:49:33,130 --> 00:49:29,220 developed animals on the planet most of 984 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:33,140 the ones with you know more intelligence 985 00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:36,720 may be accepting the bonobo the the 986 00:49:43,059 --> 00:49:39,089 great little ape that is a vegetarian 987 00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:43,069 most of the higher animals are in fact 988 00:49:49,279 --> 00:49:46,740 carnivores or omnivores like humans are 989 00:49:52,339 --> 00:49:49,289 omnivorous but the Tigers Alliance the 990 00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:52,349 dogs for instance dogs even are 991 00:50:02,510 --> 00:49:57,839 carnivores so if evolution proceeded on 992 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:02,520 such a level in other places in the 993 00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:05,970 galaxy it's likely that the carnivores 994 00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:09,089 are the ones who succeeded to serve man 995 00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:16,680 yes yeah episode from the Twilight Zone 996 00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:19,710 yeah yes but since Joe Terra went on to 997 00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:22,230 say and this is the reason he doubts 998 00:50:29,269 --> 00:50:25,260 UFOs he goes okay I guess no matter how 999 00:50:33,470 --> 00:50:29,279 you get here it has to cost something in 1000 00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:33,480 energy and energy will because something 1001 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:37,049 to a civilization so he goes so now you 1002 00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:40,170 have a whole planet sending exploration 1003 00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:43,980 yes so and he goes and they're coming 1004 00:50:49,789 --> 00:50:47,910 here to form hybrids with humans and he 1005 00:50:52,279 --> 00:50:49,799 goes you mean to tell me this is gonna 1006 00:50:55,069 --> 00:50:52,289 pass a parliament somewhere on some 1007 00:50:57,470 --> 00:50:55,079 planet we're going to spend seven 1008 00:50:59,930 --> 00:50:57,480 trillion dollars so our reps can go down 1009 00:51:02,630 --> 00:50:59,940 to this dingy little planet and have 1010 00:51:05,569 --> 00:51:02,640 humanoid creatures reproduced he goes 1011 00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:05,579 not gonna fly it just the government's 1012 00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:07,920 are not gonna pass it so that's why he 1013 00:51:11,870 --> 00:51:09,510 thinks that they're not coming here 1014 00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:11,880 well his premise is wrong because how 1015 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:14,569 he's assuming that they're like us 1016 00:51:19,310 --> 00:51:16,710 they could be completely too 1017 00:51:21,050 --> 00:51:19,320 from us right totally maybe they don't 1018 00:51:24,140 --> 00:51:21,060 have the same type of government or they 1019 00:51:25,849 --> 00:51:24,150 don't need to be going to Parliament to 1020 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:25,859 be approved to do anything maybe they're 1021 00:51:30,020 --> 00:51:28,890 so far ahead of dances they don't they 1022 00:51:32,839 --> 00:51:30,030 don't meet that they're beyond that 1023 00:51:36,770 --> 00:51:32,849 they're beyond any any comprehension any 1024 00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,780 human type comprehend comprehension so I 1025 00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:39,119 think that thinking still would be wrong 1026 00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,640 you don't have radio signal see there 1027 00:51:45,260 --> 00:51:43,440 which says it's looking south is out 1028 00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:45,270 there looking for the radio signals 1029 00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,060 which one yeah for about the last 40 1030 00:51:52,820 --> 00:51:50,640 years and it's fading out now we're not 1031 00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:52,830 on the radio we're on the internet right 1032 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:55,740 now talking to you radio yeah they're 1033 00:52:01,940 --> 00:51:57,810 looking for people that have radios like 1034 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:01,950 us out there I mean a completely 1035 00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:07,410 completely wrong completely so they also 1036 00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:09,119 say that that there yeah there was to 1037 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:12,510 say there technology so far advantage 1038 00:52:18,589 --> 00:52:15,570 that they already been through that 1039 00:52:20,810 --> 00:52:18,599 stage of radio or astronomy in and for 1040 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:20,820 you know million years I had a lot I 1041 00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:23,450 don't know 1042 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:27,780 well all the all the people that we see 1043 00:52:33,530 --> 00:52:31,170 here or the people that are the beings 1044 00:52:36,740 --> 00:52:33,540 that have been reported to you certainly 1045 00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:36,750 do seem to be had some sort of an 1046 00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:39,720 advanced level to but what always struck 1047 00:52:44,329 --> 00:52:42,180 me - as far as like faroush you brought 1048 00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:44,339 up at you being an anthropologist which 1049 00:52:50,359 --> 00:52:47,839 you really are very well informed one - 1050 00:52:52,910 --> 00:52:50,369 every civilization on earth seems to 1051 00:52:55,550 --> 00:52:52,920 have reports of little people like the 1052 00:52:58,099 --> 00:52:55,560 Hawaiians have them in honey and the 1053 00:53:01,490 --> 00:52:58,109 Irish have leprechauns and you know 1054 00:53:09,250 --> 00:53:01,500 various cultures do report these small 1055 00:53:18,050 --> 00:53:14,060 oh yeah the American Indians the 1056 00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:18,060 charities different American tribes the 1057 00:53:25,660 --> 00:53:22,470 Amerindians they all of that all have 1058 00:53:29,810 --> 00:53:25,670 their tails and their their culture 1059 00:53:30,860 --> 00:53:29,820 revolve about revolving around you know 1060 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:30,870 tales of 1061 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:33,810 people even even Giants also but mostly 1062 00:53:39,170 --> 00:53:36,090 little people and Mexico you find 1063 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:39,180 different reports of little people 1064 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:41,850 someone of that flew I mean even they 1065 00:53:45,550 --> 00:53:44,330 asked them also all white thing 1066 00:53:49,340 --> 00:53:45,560 Australians 1067 00:53:50,750 --> 00:53:49,350 they'll have their uh I I say this but I 1068 00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,760 don't think if they're really in this 1069 00:53:57,380 --> 00:53:52,800 because most of these are based on real 1070 00:54:00,160 --> 00:53:57,390 banks anyway yes but uh and and you know 1071 00:54:03,820 --> 00:54:00,170 I still get a reports of modern-day 1072 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:03,830 leprechaun encounters believe it or not 1073 00:54:10,490 --> 00:54:07,770 III don't I can't say what what they're 1074 00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:10,500 where they're from or what means but 1075 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:12,150 there there are people that still report 1076 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:16,130 them good thing and and one other 1077 00:54:21,830 --> 00:54:18,930 phenomena that I would like you to maybe 1078 00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:21,840 talk to us a little bit about is 1079 00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:26,190 something that seems relatively new and 1080 00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:31,260 that is these black-eyed children the 1081 00:54:39,290 --> 00:54:35,940 this the phenomena where one or two kids 1082 00:54:43,130 --> 00:54:39,300 comes to the door of people and and they 1083 00:54:45,230 --> 00:54:43,140 are they have no their whole eye is like 1084 00:54:49,550 --> 00:54:45,240 the pupil and they're black 1085 00:54:51,890 --> 00:54:49,560 yeah the Bek seems to be like at first I 1086 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:51,900 thought he was some kind of uh like 1087 00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:55,650 urban myth urban legend like surrender 1088 00:55:01,250 --> 00:54:58,770 man or whatever but I've been getting a 1089 00:55:03,860 --> 00:55:01,260 lot of reports about these type of 1090 00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:03,870 incidents also and I recently another 1091 00:55:09,770 --> 00:55:05,910 researcher he said me about a hundred 1092 00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:09,780 pages of cases dealing with eating with 1093 00:55:15,470 --> 00:55:11,910 you know different encounters from this 1094 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,480 type of beans or whatever they are all I 1095 00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:17,040 can tell you is that there I think there 1096 00:55:23,090 --> 00:55:19,520 are there are not uh 1097 00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:23,100 friendly I think there dangers if 1098 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:25,740 they're real I think if somebody ever 1099 00:55:30,110 --> 00:55:28,170 encountered one of these don't because 1100 00:55:32,510 --> 00:55:30,120 it's a knocking your door don't don't 1101 00:55:35,150 --> 00:55:32,520 let them in don't do what I tell you you 1102 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:35,160 have to shut the door and hope hope they 1103 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:39,330 did be quick my advice I don't know 1104 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:41,850 anything about this for sure what this 1105 00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:44,170 is sort of it's a 1106 00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:45,640 thing that has come up what would you 1107 00:55:52,829 --> 00:55:47,920 say Albert in the last 8 to 10 years and 1108 00:55:55,740 --> 00:55:52,839 it's always involves kids that are like 1109 00:55:59,339 --> 00:55:55,750 10 to 18 years old coming to your door 1110 00:56:02,579 --> 00:55:59,349 and in twos and threes and asking to 1111 00:56:08,730 --> 00:56:02,589 come in right and their eyes are totally 1112 00:56:12,059 --> 00:56:08,740 black and the witness usually feels a 1113 00:56:13,410 --> 00:56:12,069 lot of apprehension and fear terror some 1114 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,420 of the witnesses have told me that 1115 00:56:19,319 --> 00:56:15,520 terror they they feel like they that if 1116 00:56:21,089 --> 00:56:19,329 he didn't leave or shut the door or they 1117 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:21,099 would they would have died some of these 1118 00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:29,530 people told me this is I think it's a 1119 00:56:34,530 --> 00:56:32,230 real phenomenon I think it's not well 1120 00:56:38,849 --> 00:56:34,540 understood yet I think it's part of the 1121 00:56:40,890 --> 00:56:38,859 humanoid think but uh I don't know I 1122 00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:40,900 don't think they're they're a positive 1123 00:56:54,750 --> 00:56:49,599 positive couple of being you have seen 1124 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:54,760 like an upswing in anything else there's 1125 00:57:00,900 --> 00:56:56,410 been a lot of recent encounters lately 1126 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:00,910 it was a humanoids and craft it seems to 1127 00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:03,849 be all ready for 2015 I know several 1128 00:57:10,620 --> 00:57:07,569 cases already and seems I guess 1129 00:57:11,150 --> 00:57:10,630 something has been picking up a lot 1130 00:57:19,530 --> 00:57:11,160 lately 1131 00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:19,540 and you know it may be are they in in 1132 00:57:25,460 --> 00:57:21,910 the United States in Argentina in the 1133 00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:25,470 northwest or or not a particular place 1134 00:57:31,289 --> 00:57:28,030 always in Argentina as always cases 1135 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:31,299 there that come out are the recent cases 1136 00:57:41,569 --> 00:57:36,010 in Puerto Rico and now in Florida and 1137 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:41,579 Washington Washington State and New York 1138 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:45,609 has been recent cases and I hope I could 1139 00:57:49,799 --> 00:57:47,650 retrieve because all my latest 1140 00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:49,809 information is the mahkum title myself 1141 00:57:54,359 --> 00:57:52,329 hopefully I could get that fix and 1142 00:57:55,710 --> 00:57:54,369 retrieve all that information oh gosh I 1143 00:58:00,420 --> 00:57:55,720 hope so 1144 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:00,430 that you've enjoyed speaking with us and 1145 00:58:05,730 --> 00:58:02,770 that you will agree to come on again 1146 00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:05,740 with us sometime definitely today is 1147 00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:09,760 been one of those days for me I had no 1148 00:58:13,410 --> 00:58:11,260 idea what's going to happen with my 1149 00:58:16,770 --> 00:58:13,420 laptop I'm sitting in a different room 1150 00:58:18,809 --> 00:58:16,780 with the other old computer really with 1151 00:58:29,010 --> 00:58:18,819 and not with the latest information in 1152 00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:29,020 front of me and I apologize yeah totally 1153 00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:34,660 well thank you it's certainly everybody 1154 00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,510 that does this and it's always a joke 1155 00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:39,040 when someone says oh they're just doing 1156 00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:40,510 it for the money or the attention 1157 00:58:52,339 --> 00:58:43,030 because the attention you get is not 1158 00:58:55,319 --> 00:58:52,349 welcome zippo or - and so people do this 1159 00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:55,329 yeah and to try to spread knowledge and 1160 00:59:03,240 --> 00:58:57,670 to awaken other people up that there are 1161 00:59:05,010 --> 00:59:03,250 things beside us and I know I was going 1162 00:59:08,099 --> 00:59:05,020 to say just besides everything else 1163 00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:08,109 we've said about you positive Albert one 1164 00:59:13,140 --> 00:59:10,390 more thing that I want to say is that 1165 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:13,150 you are multilingual and I think it's 1166 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:17,050 very important that we make inroads into 1167 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:21,430 other other countries where people speak 1168 00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:23,530 other languages and that we're able to 1169 00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:27,040 share so people like yourself and aj 1170 00:59:32,460 --> 00:59:29,920 gevaerd in brazil who you know speaks 1171 00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:32,470 English Portuguese I think that this is 1172 00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:35,380 very very important for the study of 1173 00:59:42,290 --> 00:59:39,190 humanoids and and apology that's one of 1174 00:59:45,329 --> 00:59:42,300 the things I have tried to do is expose 1175 00:59:48,660 --> 00:59:45,339 cases that a man known at all here in 1176 00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:48,670 the West from different countries like 1177 00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:52,390 in the Eastern Europe and and the Middle 1178 00:59:56,730 --> 00:59:54,270 East 1179 00:59:59,130 --> 00:59:56,740 different countries that I have 1180 01:00:02,370 --> 00:59:59,140 translated translated under so reports 1181 01:00:04,890 --> 01:00:02,380 and I want to you know compare cases 1182 01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:04,900 from different parts of the world and 1183 01:00:10,490 --> 01:00:06,790 you know Express expressing information 1184 01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,630 and tonight I had a conversation with 1185 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:17,440 you ladies and I hope to do it again oh 1186 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:22,330 absolutely we really want to do you will 1187 01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:25,330 repeat your your your website 1188 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:31,180 information I believe it's correct how 1189 01:00:35,820 --> 01:00:33,310 would people really let you know about 1190 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:35,830 an experience I know how they get 1191 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:40,450 emailed me and my email Garuda 79 at 1192 01:00:51,630 --> 01:00:46,090 AT&T met Garuda spelled GA are you da 1193 01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:51,640 and then 79 at 18th Ethernet and also 1194 01:00:58,020 --> 01:00:54,480 everybody who wants to read this 1195 01:01:05,040 --> 01:00:58,030 multitude of fabulous reporting of 1196 01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:05,050 sightings they would go to WWF OH info 1197 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:10,750 info and then slash humanoid which has 1198 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:14,290 promote my researches been there thanks 1199 01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:16,450 again Elber really appreciate it thank 1200 01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:17,980 you thank you very much 1201 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:20,020 and I thank you for giving me the 1202 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:25,210 opportunity oh absolutely 1203 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:27,250 listen for anyone listening to this 1204 01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:29,650 podcast we'd love to hear your comments 1205 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:31,510 on it and I'm sure Albert would like to 1206 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:33,760 as well so as well as contacting Albert 1207 01:01:42,540 --> 01:01:36,930 you can always contact us through 1208 01:01:46,290 --> 01:01:42,550 reality shattered reality podcast.com 1209 01:01:50,430 --> 01:01:46,300 like us on Facebook please make 1210 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:50,440 suggestions to us talk to us we want to 1211 01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:53,530 hear what you have to say and we are 1212 01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:56,020 thrilled to have had Albert on today and 1213 01:02:01,170 --> 01:01:57,970 if you'd like to hear from anybody else 1214 01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:01,180 please let us know our next podcast will 1215 01:02:06,570 --> 01:02:04,510 feature david the Edney that's going to 1216 01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:06,580 be a conversation not to be missed 1217 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:30,120 welcome to shattered reality with your 1218 01:02:37,950 --> 01:02:34,930 hosts Kate Valentine and furs prepare to